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remington, March 4th, 2012, 10:35 pm

MORAL: Swearing makes you huge and scary - A predictable end to a silly story. I hope you enjoyed it!

What comes next? Well, lately I've been trying to think of ways to spice up the Luffinpuff and Eric Experience(TM). A common (and justified) criticism I get is that people get tired of L&E's shtick. And I admit, it can get pretty formulaic (Luffinpuff does a thing, Eric doesn't wanna do a thing, boom, story). So basically, if you have any constructive feedback, this is the time to give it to me. Stuff you like, stuff you wish was better, stuff you wanna see more of, any ol' thing, I'd love to hear it. It's for a good cause!

Anyway, I have a few stories in mind but most of all I want it to be fun for me to draw and fun for you to read. Give me a week or two and I'll have something. In the meantime I'll probably be doing some covers and stuff since I'm wayyyy behind. Be sure to check back.

Thanks as always for reading!

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remington, March 4th, 2012, 10:44 pm

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Maybe switch it up? Eric wants to go somewhere and Luffinpuff is all like, "Meh."

Or bring back the beloved construction platypus. What with Dagnabbit, he has a big job on his webbed hands.

Also, DAGNABBITZILLA!

posted by senor_pena on March 5th, 2012, 8:38 am





 
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Warning, long ass post ahead.

First off- I love this comic. It's one of my favourites. So any crits I give, please take them as crits of love =)

I don't personally get tired of seeing the Luffinpuff and Eric dynamic. It's the comic's thing, it's what we want I'd say. But with something like this I think what we want to see is the POTENTIAL of growth. The potential that one of them could change the other- That there might be some way Eric could become happier or there could be something less happy going on with Luffinpuff, in a lasting sense (For example, the thing you did regarding Luffinpuff not wanting to talk about his family, that was cool and intruiging. Makes you wonder what's going on with him).

If I'm being really greedy I think I'd also like longer chapters xD Like here for example, I'd like to see what happens next! When they get into a horrible situation, I'd like to see how they deal with it.

Them's my thoughts =) Looking forward to more either way.

posted by H0lyhandgrenade on March 5th, 2012, 8:43 am



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Well, personally, the dynamic between the two has been fine. But if you want change, try thinking about them as real people and see how they would grow and change over time. The more 3-dimensional they become, the better the store could be. Explore Luffinpuff's family, their past, or maybe see how people react to Luffinpuff when Eric gets older? Though that could be an arc for a different time, it would be helpful to see a slightly more serious side to this comic, it could be interesting.

posted by Sojourn (Guest) on March 5th, 2012, 9:11 am





 
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I honestly can't think of any way you could improve the comic.
Seriously, I would give some crit if I could, but I've loved every chapter so far. If it aint broke, don't fix it matey.

One story I would like to see though is L&E traveling to the future to meet their future selves.

posted by JimLad on March 5th, 2012, 9:29 am





 
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Meet more of Eric's family?

posted by Djoing on March 5th, 2012, 9:44 am





 
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I'm with H0ly about this being one of those moments where you really wish the chapter was longer. xD We want to know how the catastrophe is averted!

posted by Mythee on March 5th, 2012, 10:18 am





 
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Love how it ends with Luffinpuff swearing too XD;

Maybe more of other imaginary friends ? :'D Or Luffinpuff's original home and childhood or something

posted by Raine-chan on March 5th, 2012, 10:41 am





 
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Maybe someday Luffinpuff would have an emotional breakdown and it's up to Eric to cheer him back up.

posted by Inxerene on March 5th, 2012, 10:55 am





 
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How about a story that doesn't have Eric or Luffinpuff until the last page? Like a glimpse into one of your more favorite characters?

posted by MEEP GOD on March 5th, 2012, 10:56 am



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Swearin's bad, mmkay?

posted by Moocow (Guest) on March 5th, 2012, 11:27 am





 
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Maybe instead there's a whole chapter looking into Binda & Megan instead of Luffinpuff & Eric? :D ...I dunno, I just wanna see more of those two soon~ o w o

posted by dare4distance on March 5th, 2012, 11:58 am





 
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I feel cheated that the chapter ends here. :<

This was pretty much the introduction, the actual story would start now.

posted by The_mad_one on March 5th, 2012, 1:07 pm





 
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Personally, I love the end of this chapter. Luffinpuff swearing is a funny gag, plus I've always been a fan of stories where things DON'T get all neatly resolved at the end. As for what happened immediately afterward, we can use our imaginations, yeah?

I'm pretty sure as soon as you make things more serious, you'll start getting complaints about how it's not fun and lighthearted like it used to be. Therefore, you should do exactly what you want to do -- incorporating some of the more intriguing suggestions as you see fit :) P.S. "Cheated" = "Entitled"

posted by JoJo on March 5th, 2012, 1:25 pm





 
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@JoJo:

Nah, I most certainly meant "cheated".

cheat (cht) v. cheat·ed, cheat·ing, cheats
v.tr.
3. To mislead; fool

I was led to believe Dagnabbit would grow huge and it would have consequences.
In stead, it stopped when Dagnabbit grew huge.
Therefore, I was misled, thus I feel cheated.

en·ti·tle (n-ttl)
tr.v. en·ti·tled, en·ti·tling, en·ti·tles
2. To furnish with a right or claim to something

I have no rights or claims to anything in this comic.
I do, however, have feelings about it. The feeling is "cheated".

Please don't try to tell people what they feel.

posted by The_mad_one on March 5th, 2012, 2:14 pm





 
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An interesting question you pose.

I'll consider answering it sometime.

posted by FlashBang on March 5th, 2012, 2:27 pm





 
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Since you asked for it, I suppose I'll add some actual constructive feedback as well:

Since the 'formula' balances on Luffinpuff and Eric being their somewhat predictable selves, I think the most effective way to break the cycle is by mixing more characters in.

Maybe even exclude Luffinpuff and Eric altogether in some chapters. That's a bit risky though, I wouldn't recommend it unless the characters in those chapters are well-known (Eric's dad) or very popular (Bindy and Meg).

(Yes, other people said similar things, I'm trying to keep it general)

posted by The_mad_one on March 5th, 2012, 2:41 pm





 
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Well, I had to reread all of Luffinpuff and Eric to be able to give you an actual account of what I feel and how I've perceived the comic. Also, I had to log back on to make this comment count.

Warning: This will be long, most edited, and slightly redundant/nonsensical.

I do like seeing the two together, as duo, and including some before/never before seen characters. At some point, the focus has shifted from the dynamic duo onto other characters. I think that is a good refresher for this kind of story because it tells us much more about the characters we may encounter later on in the tale.

I want to include a few things I've found in rereading the comic. We learned about how Eric's father received Luffinpuff's ways and in retaliation, attempted to make his son into a man, but what triggered that need to be "manly"?

I feel that the father's reasoning needs to be brought out into the open in some way, shape, or form. I doubt his father will agree with Luffinpuff's methods, but at some point, he can tolerate him; much like he did in the "Deal With It" chapter. This could be used sparingly and in not so big situations.

In "Deal With It", I took note of how Luffinpuff addresses Eric's mother as "Mrs. Helen." Though this is somewhat formal, it still shows his love and respect for her. I would like to see how this relationship came about and how it grew from then onto now. To elaborate, this relationship seems quite important for without Mrs. Helen, Luffinpuff might not be here, today (or anywhere near Eric, if that is plausible).

Others have mentioned it, but I would like to know what is Luffinpuff's deal with family? We've seen his crazed face when the subject is brought into question and it seems he has a psychological issue with that. Adding onto family, he has a problem with perfection. Everything must be perfect and everybody must be pleased and yet, he isn't pleasing himself. Actually, is Luffinpuff even capable of self-content, for lack of a better term. All the things that he do, he'll do them with a smile and a chip on his shoulder; but it makes me wonder about how happy he really is.

posted by InfiniteIon on March 5th, 2012, 7:17 pm





 
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I hope there is a living Christmas Tree that loves to play in snow and dance ballet or do other silly things. Some people want MORE characterization whereas I like cute innocent fun things teehee. I have no desire for cursing or blood spillage. But hey do as you want author-san.

posted by James Birdsong on March 5th, 2012, 7:20 pm





 
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Meh, maybe you should try having chapters focusing on other characters then L&E.

posted by Sabbo on March 5th, 2012, 7:35 pm





 
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Maybe go into where/how imaginary friends come from?

Love you comic by the way, whatever you decide we'll love! :]

posted by makishal on March 5th, 2012, 7:43 pm





 
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@The_mad_one: Hahaha aww, I love when people on the internet quote the dictionary. It's adorable. "Cheated" implies that the author either owes you something or didn't play by the rules. I'm not saying you don't feel that way. I'm saying it's a preposterous way to feel.

@remington: My idea for taking L&E in a new direction: Luffinpuff breaks out of Hell with a car and jacks up wannabe demon lucifer baby so bad he ain't even goin to Hell or sh@%t. hot damn. then this bad azz mofo drinks outta that b*%@tches skull and oh yeah he also killed as these suckers and he did it all for a baby.

posted by JoJo on March 5th, 2012, 8:06 pm





 
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As much as I love the comic now...

Perhaps add more dynamics of what the other children and their imagination friends are up to? Especially Bindy Boo? I dunno...<XP

posted by EsinoLolly on March 5th, 2012, 10:17 pm





 
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Wow, thanks for all the awesome feedback guys! This is really helpful for me. I really appreciate you typing all those words! Just wanted y'all to know I'm reading what you wrote and I'll make more direct responses later...

posted by remington on March 6th, 2012, 8:45 am





 
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@JoJo: Funny, you actually realize I checked the dictionary and still try to explain the word cheated. Too bad you picked just one definition (not two, owing someone something is not a definition of cheating) of the ten that exist and it's the wrong one. Hint: The one I meant is in my earlier comment.

Also funny that you're still trying to tell me what I feel. I explained what I meant. You're saying something completely different and claim I feel 'that way' through some awkward double denial, "I'm not saying you don't feel that way".

So you've got your fact wrong right after I explained it quite clearly. Consequently, your opinion means nothing.

At least not to me. You go on and have fun with it.

posted by The_mad_one on March 6th, 2012, 2:21 pm





 
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@The_mad_one: Oh you, you're so cute! If it means nothing, then why do you keep responding? I WILL try to have fun with my opinion, though I'm sure it won't be nearly as much fun as you have with that dictionary! What's the definition of "butthurt" again...?

P.S. "Implication" is not the same thing as "definition." Telling me an implication isn't part of the dictionary definition makes zero sense. Huzzah!

posted by JoJo on March 6th, 2012, 5:13 pm





 
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@The_mad_one @JoJo STOP ALL THE BATTLING! It's dumb and achieving nothing and sending me useless notifications. Sit on the couch and hold hands until you're sorry.

posted by remington on March 6th, 2012, 5:41 pm





 
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@remington: But I wanna hold hands wif YOU... <3

posted by JoJo on March 6th, 2012, 6:49 pm





 
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Amazing! hahaha, I laughed so much.

If I were to give some crit, I'd say Eric needs some development. We know he's an apathetic, teenage kid, but we'd like to see some plots maybe where he has to rely on himeself etc, put Eric in situations where Luffinpuff can't help or he has to face himself etc

posted by MilkyNoodles on March 7th, 2012, 11:39 am



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I'm imagining the last panel with the end music of south park playing -.- haha
Idk that reminds me, south park is pretty formulaic too but some of the appeal is that they get into these crazy ---- situations together and it's still amusing.
If you don't want it to be formulaic I guess the only thing I can think of is (continuing) character development and changes in their relationship xD;; Probably what other people are saying. But then it probably wouldn't be as silly...idk. Maybe some stories focusing on only one of them at a time....eh...I mean it'd be interesting but nothing I'm saying is really novel. I'm just gonna go do my homework now -_- Good luck!

posted by manana too lazy to login (Guest) on March 8th, 2012, 1:12 am



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I honestly don't mind the 'usual schtick'. Luffinpuff and Eric, more than most comics I read, strikes me as being a cartoon. Unlike most cartoons though, I feel it is far less stagnant. We've seen Luffinpuff get upset, we've seen Eric be nice, we've seen their dynamic range from conciliatory to contentious. All things I doubt we'd see in a similar toon. If you want to switch things up the easiest thing to do would be to expand upon the cast. Eric's parents could be quite funny, as could his friends. Luffinpuff and Eric are funny together but they can interact with other characters more too. Likewise, seeing Eric and Luffinpuff without the other could be ripe as well.

posted by Harpsichorde (Guest) on March 11th, 2012, 4:21 pm





 
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Love this, I like the random chapters that you got, it's interesting x'D
were Luffinouff ever little, ya know... a kid? or have ha always been like that >w>'

posted by Manga-Ka on March 19th, 2012, 4:58 pm





 
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Yeah, see, the interaction between Luffy and Eric is what I come here for. It's not just the one wants to do something and the other thinks it's kerr-ay-zee; you play with it. The one problem I can see is that personally, when I try to think of plot arcs you could do, everything's been done by either "Fairly Odd Parents" or "Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends". So far, though, you've done a good job with either coming up with other stuff or putting a different spin on it--I loved their trip into anime (I'm assuming, uh, that evil jerk won't be trapped there forever), and the play-date with the mermaid was pretty clever. So sad for her!

posted by Durvin on March 21st, 2012, 10:50 am





 
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Read through the entire comic again, here's some late tips.

Even with status quo, we haven't seen Eric break character often, we haven't really seen what makes him tick a bit. Which could cause him to become slightly mary sue-ish. He's obivously into video games and is your average preteen gamer boy. But I'd like to see something like a camping adventure with him and his friends without Luff maybe?

I agree that bringing more solid minors into the stories works, and also that the chapters can end abruptly at times. This one ended on an amazing joke, but the entire thing was setup to this moment, so it would have been nice to continue from here for another 10 pages.

Whilst this comic is very lighthearted, I'd love to see it hit serious notes WITHIN the lighthearted. Like with Bindy and Luffinpuff, that was the biggest character developer there. It got serious, but stayed silly.

I'd like to see more on Luff's family, always entice the reader with mystery. But growing the origins of an imaginary friend in this universe. Do they go to school for it? is it a different realm theyre from? Its all questions the fans ask.

I'd like to see an arc about one of Erics friends maybe. Follow him around for a bit, show his life. etc. These things really allow more characters to gain love.

Anywho, this comic is one of my faves, so keep it up! ^^

posted by MilkyNoodles on March 23rd, 2012, 4:28 am



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I remember the halloween arc you had! I loved that you brought more of the kids he is friends with in, and the world of L and E started to having the start of solidfying and becoming more complex. It surprised me when they sort of became more of a plot device or just secondary characters who didn't show up that much. I believe that by having Eric really interact with other folks aside from luff and with his friends, and more of his family, that these problems will solve themselves. I think that if you added just one friend of Eric and really solidified him as a character that that alone would up the excitement.

Also, some more info about Luffinpuff and why he does what he does would be fascinating. Can imaginary friends have babies? They can obvious like like each other. Seeing more of luffinpuff's family would be killer. As in, it would kill me with lolz and I would fall on the floor. The thought of his dad alone makes me smile.

posted by Loss_of_Motion on April 6th, 2012, 1:41 am



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So I should swear at the gym to get huge?

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